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Ed Ziomek
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 Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: True |
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Antisthenes...
I basically heard the same. Birbes, yes. Capitalist progress, sure? Instead of us seeing GIs kicking down doors on the 6 o'clock news, we see GIs and Marines waving at tribal guys with guns... something we should have done 5 years ago.
But we still lost 5 brave Americans today. Prayers, my brothers and sisters.
Also note: Colombia apologized, big hug and a kiss with Venezuela and Ecuador. Everyone is in pleasant shock!
Egypt is brokering some kind of negotiations between Hamas and Israel, fingers crossed.
Bob Marley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDrbagYm24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUdUmLmNQis
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: Music and Dance for Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador |
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As I am writing this, as estimated one million persons are gathered near the Simon Bolivar Bridge, the border separating Venezuela and Colombia.
They are celebrating the war that never happened, with music and dance, and coming together. At least 100 musical artists are performing there this minute, these hours.
No war. Celebrating the Peace of all people. Just music and dance.
Somos un solo pais, somos hermanos!
Thanks to President Chavez of Venezuela, President Uribe of Colombia, and President Correa of Ecuador!
It can be done!!!!
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But. . .but. . .Mad George says Iraq is a "noble endeavor" and the Iraqi people were rescued from "unimaginable horrors". . .
Like their country has running water and electricity and health care and jobs, now, like they had before. . .NOT
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Fascinating speech .....
Gorgeous George is evidently unaware of the story of the Emperor's new clothes (tailoring by Halliburton).
When Romanian Dictator Nicolae Ceausescu gave his last speech (which was meant to be to a rally of his supporters), his security guards suddenly saw that it was not working. Ceausescu seemed totally oblivious to his having lost credibility and the security guards hustled him away and into a helicopter.
Romanians - very many of whom had liked their leader - will tell you that at the end Ceausescu was ill (and then put the blame firmly on his wife). The Romanians adopted a "kill or cure" approach and the Dictator and his wife were shot.
It is particularly tragic to see, on the one hand, a delusional President, and, on the other, to see increasing "tent-cities" in California. I suspect that the Iraqis - fighting for simple survival - do not even hear the words of the aggressor.
as the saying goes "we are all Palestinians now" .......
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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true that i would take it even further and say we are all niggers, slaves to corporatism, with no control fully exploited, driven by the complicity of a few elite privileged Cogs who don't even believe in them selfs.
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: No. Unacceptable |
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Antisthenes, this is unacceptable in my book to use that word. If I am a minority of opinion, then over-rule me, but I say your n reference and my protest should be removed.
Your opinion is highly valued, but not that word.
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Richard Haut
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| Quote: | | There are only two people who can tell you the truth about yourself - an enemy who has lost his temper and a friend who loves you dearly. |
- the "other" Antisthenes
nasty word, Ed - but the right one to use. That is the tragedy.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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very sad indeed, I feel very strongly about how these lifeless institutions have hijacked the future of our existence and have no regard
Dave Chappelle and many other people of color would agree to broaden the word to include all people, I mean, as a person in solidarity with all phenotypes (races) I think reclaiming the words as has been done by the most progressive politically active people of color artists speaks volumes to the profound pain this land is in and how much healing needs yet to occur. maybe with the hybrid president we are forecast to get if no cheating occurs
I having grown up in a all black neighborhood feel perfectly comfortable with the redefinition of the word in popular culture as has occurred, maybe this is because of age and the ever changing consciousness of hip hop culture.
but of course each individual will have their own interpretation, but let it be know I mean no offense but to open up and make vulnerable a issue that we all are affected by and I feel is the root cause to most modern wars and other industrial complexes
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As a gay person I can call myself a fag -- but you can't, unless I give you "permission" explicitly or by inference. Ditto with other such names (nicknames ?). This is political correctness ? Is it good ? Is it "right" ?
I don't know - but it seems to be the fact. I don't have a problem with it. And you can call me a fag, because I know you and like you.
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it depends on the attitude - the way in which a word is used. Whatever the term used to describe a member of any group, if the isolation and hatred are contained in the statement, then the individual word is secondary.
an "elder" French politician was interviewed some time ago about the war and the conduct towards Jews. He never mentioned Jews at all - he used the word "foreigners" which makes his attitude seem even worse.
did the American papers mention the member of the Israeli Knesset (needless to say from the Shas Party) who blamed the recent earthquakes in the region on the Gay Community ? Does this have implications for an area at risk of earthquakes like California ? What does it mean ?
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It means bigotry and nonsense, to me. We have these unfortunate "leaders" here, too. Some of them make a lot of money and have a big television audience. . .!
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Cultural differences, and emails never forget.... |
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In New York, the big news is all the affairs of Spitzer and his replacement Patterson. Can you imagine having several flings 10 years ago, 10 minutes of bliss, and 20 years of being reminded about that, including one trying to blackmail him with videos and emails of the trysts?
The Reverend Wright business, with his verbal sermons against America's actions after 9-11, where he made incendiary remarks in 2001 which were packaged into little CDs, sold them to the black community, now the whole affair is biting into the Obama campaign.
I have heard of a Real Estate lady say some negatives about a certain religious group... instant dismissal.
I have heard of a person make negative comments about autistic children, instant dismissal.
Well, in the New York area, if you put any of a whole list of incendiary words into emails, you will probably lose your job by tomorrow morning, and you still may be sued. If the company who employs you does nothing about it, they can be sued also if they do nothing. And 20 years from now, some clown can troll the internet data keepers and slam it in your face.
The irony is that kids and teenagers and college kids, they call each other these exact names ALL THE TIME.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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even professionals and young architects
speaking of reverend Wright did you see Bill Clinton went to him to repent for getting duck sicks from Lewinsky
and did you see "The Family" stuff about Hillary Clinton's Preacher who is a right wing anti communist blow hard?
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: Don't use that word, please. |
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I am so very proud to say I have Asian personal relatives, and African American relatives, so please don't use those incendiary words on this website.
I am not the site administrator, so I can't tell you what to do, but in your lifetime, in my lifetime, people have died in my area because of those words, and because of the color of their skin, or their ethnicity... and it all starts with simple name calling.
I would like to think that this website, and certainly these important opinions of yours, permanently written in these threads, can be viewed by all persons, of all age groups, of all ethnicities, without fear of racial or national or gender or personal insults.
This Fireside Forum could be a wonderful teaching tool, and I hope you understand how offensive that one word, and a few other words, are to so many millions of people, some of whom read our opinions.
Thank you.
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