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mx2
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| Quote: | | http://www.petfriendlytravel.com/images/listings/668/200707221959190.gif |
This link shows what my favorite would be...but I'm kinda enamored with the idea of a real front porch. True colonials would have "flat" roofs covering the front porches...something to look into. 
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41buick
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: mx2 |
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mx2,
I agree, I like the first drawing of the lastest designs that I've added. To me, it's the first design that truely looks architectually correct for my house and additionally it's the only design that not only allows for the existing front door location but I think actually compliments it. The drawing actually doesn't include pillars, it uses bracket bracing instead, but I think the use of pillars would be much better. I also think this design would work very well without the roof extending over the left bay window as shown in the drawing. Just center it below the 2nd story window as in the other 2 drawings, but with the offset gable and the using the existing front door location. Let me know what you think?
Thanks 41buick
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SDR
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Well, congratulations -- you've been holding out on us. The owner is a designer, and a draftsman too ?
It looks good to me. Though you've already built a decent porch, the one you've now drawn is more handsome still. If merely moving the door and repairing the surrounding finish isn't going to satisfy, then by all means go the whole way and build what we see here. It certainly updates the house nicely, doesn't it. . .
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mx2
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I love it....but nix the brick. It's not appropriate for the style for your house, unless it's part of a chimney or foundation. It should be wood and I'd like to see a wood balustrade! Don't forget your shutter dogs! 
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mx2
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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And I'm gonna keep hounding you about the inside...something tells me relocating the front door would disrupt the flow of interior space somehow, or just make it slightly odd....if anything, I'm more concerned with spatial relationships than one facade that look good already.
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SDR
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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The latest porch roof magically allows the door to be placed anywhere it wants to be ! So, no problem -- at last.
The man IS an architect. He's been toying with us, I tell you. We've been played like a violin. . . 
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Well I'm not sure an architect would put a craftsman porch on a neo-colonial house but I suppose it is headed toward the style of the day. Perhaps hang a star or two around somewhere and some stone coins on the corners.
Is this the how many styles we can put on one house game? 
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SDR
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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The shed-roofed porch now drawn doesn't have to be "styled" as shown -- it could have four equally-spaced slender columns and a continuous masonry foundation like that of the rest of the house. . .
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mx2
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see example:
http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles16140.jpg
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Madimel
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Wow Buick,
That is a really good representation of the revision. So if that is the direction that you want to go, you end up ripping out the porch and moving the lower window as well. Personally, I prefer columns laid out equally spaced, especially when it is under a shed roof.
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SDR
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I don't mind the asymmetry per se, but it's true that this house may be better suited to a regular colonnade (as in Mx2's photo).
Sounds like our long-suffering client will do *anything* to get it right ! Congratulations. . .
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mx2
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I wish all my clients were like that...but then I'm left wondering about the first architect who designed the first roofed entrance. Is it another case of "well, it's what my client wanted"...?
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SDR
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How about "it's what my client thought he wanted, of the alternatives we discussed. . ." ?
People vary greatly in their ability to accurately picture a result based only on plans and elevations. Perspectives, a quick study model, or a navigable digital model can all pay for themselves, and might be suggested by an architect who isn't convinced that his client has grasped the implications of a particular solution. Whether the client will spring for such "extras" is another matter.
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Madimel
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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mx,
so at what point do you dig your heels against the wishes of the client and risk losing the project? Most of the clients that we work with are not used to having people tell them "no". I spend way too much time spinning the wheels on many projects waiting for the client to paint themselves in a corner and finally agree the original concept is the best fit.
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