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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Geometric Design found among Nazca Lines Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to share what I consider to be another remarkable discovery in Peru, among the Nazca lines... a "Zodiac-geometric design", this one from...

GJ de Jong, of the Netherlands....

http://www.conceptgroen.nl/Nasca_bot.htm

http://www.conceptgroen.nl/Nasca_bot001.htm

Also mentioned on World-mysteries.com....

"Nazca Lines - Theories..." compiled by Alex Sokolowski...

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_1_2.htm

(page-down 19 pages for Zodiac portion)

I believe this design is a fabulous historic discovery... how small we are today, compared to these brilliant human beings of ??? 2000/4000/5000 years ago.

If any of the DesignCommunity viewers know of any similar zodiac designs, of this magnitude, anywhere else on this earth... and their websites, please let me know.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: "Boxing the Outside Think" Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to share an idea I had after being inspired by the geometric design found among the Nazca discoveries.

I am presently seeking a patent attorney for a number system that in one single position, could represent a number sequence from 0 to beyond the numerical system that we understand it today.

The net of it all is that this single image, representing unthinkably large number sequences (quadrillion trillion... and beyond), could be represented in a single-place image. Having done this, every digital disk, every quantity of data, could theoretically be compressed into a single pictoral image, as small as a ??? fingernail, and printable/storable as an ink printout.

The market product for such an idea would be that digital photos, for example, could be accompanied by a single-image Icon, printed at the bottom, which 50 years from now could be "read" into a PC, and deciphered into an entire CD of video and audio information. Every digital photo could now have an audio WAV clip attached to it, for playback 100 or 200 years, or 5 seconds from now, provided that the deciphering software is known.

Entire libraries, I believe, could be condensed into a single page of images.

I believe it would work, and am soliciting ideas and participation from readers of this web site. PS... I offered this same idea to two other websites, with very little response.

Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Theory:Ancient Mathematical Formulas found in Aztec Calendar Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to share a remarkable website with the readers of this forum.

The author... Charles Williams Johnson gives a mathematical explanation of the Aztec calendar that is way over my head... but is interesting in its theory.

http://www.earthmatrix.com/aztec/five-aztec.swf

On a second note, I am researching the Hindu/Bhuddist God/Goddess Mahakana, Mahakala and the center image of the Aztec calendar, known at various times from various sources as "Tonatiuh", Tlaloc, Flint-knife, and possibly a few others.

http://www.caminoflorido.com/aztec-culture/aztec-calendar-pictures.html

My theory is that the centerpiece image is very close in appearance and meaning to Mahakana/Mahakala of Hindu/Bhuddist mythologies....

In a theoretical and logical leap, I am tabling the idea that the Central American tribe of Meh-hee-kah-na, and Meh-he-cal-lee, i.e., Mexico, are related to Mahakana and Mahakala. I am only an amateur, and a non-academic... I am only presenting the "coincidence", but I recognize similar theology attributes and celebration of death between the Asian and Central American practices.

http://www.trocadero.com/pmorse/items/483553/item483553store.html

http://www.khandro.net/deity_Mahakala.htm

www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/02/hm2_3_0_4_4.html

Another visual example is the Hindu knife... does it look like an Aztec sacrificial knife?

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/product/ZJ42

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Comparing Greek, Aztec, Bhuddist Images: Cultural Diffusion Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

In further research of Bhuddist images comparing with Aztec and Greek images, let me add the following graphic comparisons...

Greek-Medusa with Aztec Calendar's Tonatiuh

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/8521/medusatonatiuh5vj.jpg

Second, I added the image of Mahakala, from the Tibetan Bhuddist mythologies...

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4022/3compare1vf.jpg

Third, I compared the Tibetan Bhuddist Mandela showing Mahakala, with the Aztec calendar center showing Tonatiuh.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/4508/mandelacalendar9zl.jpg

These images in one instance show striking similarities, yet the mythologies of the Greek Medusa, Aztec Tonatiuh, and the Tibetan/Hindu/Bhuddist Mahakala are radically different from each other.

My point was an attempt to show a possible connection between the Mahakana/Mahakala mythologies of Asia, with the Aztecan mythologies of Mexico: Meh-hee-ko, Meh-hee-kah-na, Meh-hee-kal-la.

Maybe these images prove something. Maybe they prove nothing. I see striking similarities.

Your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: More Ancient and Modern Geometric Designs... Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to include more ancient geometric design puzzlers for the readers of this great website...

Ancient Geometrics..."Anasazi Star Cities"
An Orion Correlation in Arizona: Overview
by Gary A. David
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_gd1.htm

Modern Day Geometrics...
M.C. Escher and Visual Illusions, compiled by Alex Sokowlowski of World-Mysteries.com
http://www.world-mysteries.com/illusions/sci_illusions3.htm

Hans Jenny and geometric puzzlers...
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_cymatics.htm

Very soon, I would like to compile another thread on the mysterious, Templar-similar graphics of Aztec Valley of Mexico, including the "tree of life", "chalice/tabernacle of Creation", Black Madonna, compass rose, divine male/female iconic symbols, French sounding God-figures, and the puzzling legend from the Aztecs themselves, that in 1325 AD, a group of bearded white men, hair the color of the sun, with iron tools, had organized their loosely knit minority tribe into an organized domineering position, with temples. Could they have been the Templars, exiled from France in 18 ships in 1307? I don't have answers, but I have 100 questions, and circumstantial graphic pieces of evidence that I would like to present in this thread of ancient geographic designs that intrique us.

I think the ancients were smarter than we are today.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Sacred Geometry: Ancient Structures with Accoustic Qualities Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I found this exceptional website from Danny Yanez Gonzalez...

Pythagoras and Sacred Geometry

"The diameter of the earth and the moon are as 11 and 3. Using these 2 numbers we draw their 2 circles touching each other. Now we enclose the earth circle in a square and from its center we draw a circle through the centre of the moon. If pi = 22/7, the circumference of the circle = 44. The square containing the earth circle has a side = 11 (Perim. = 44). Its measure = 31,680 miles...
...We now draw 4 moons at the 4 quarters of the earth and add 2 on each side of them (12 moons). The 8 added circles pass through the 8 points where the square and the circle meet. This representation (circle squared by the earth and moon) is the key to ancient science and wisdom.."

"In the esoteric schools of Egypt and the ancient world, the purpose of teaching geometry was to understand how the world was made, i.e. sacred geometry Every triangle, square, pentagon, etc., correspond to a certain power in nature. The ancient architects designed rooms and buildings by musical ratios. A floor area of 1 by 2 represents the octave; 3 by 4 is the musical fith; 2 by 3 is the fourth; 8 by 9 is a tone, etc. The most perfect shape for a sanctuary dedicated to the earth is a cube. Solomon's Temple was a cubical building, measuring 20 x 20 x 20 cubits. The Kaaba Shrine in Mecca is another cube. Within is the holy stone, or black meteorite that marks the centre-point of the muslim world..."

http://dyg2.tripod.com/id6.html

http://dyg2.tripod.com/id9.html

Index... http://dyg2.tripod.com/index.html

"Scientific & Historical Related Data, & Updates (Page I). Contents: Vesica Piscis . Homo sapiens . Evolution & Einstein . The Missing Element (Terra Amata, etc.) . Red Ochre Clay & Common Religious Belief Systems . Newton, Gravity & the Fixed Future . Theory of Relativity (Einstein's sound clip) . Wormholes & Time Travelling . Quantum Theory & Time (Vilenkin, Hawking & Hartle) . A Vast Universe & Life . Amino Acids & Extraterrestrial Life . Origin of Life & Number Theory . Chaos & Creative Evolution . Evolution Challeged by Archaeology . Fibonacci's Curve . The Great Name of God . Sacred Fraction . Comma of Pythagoras . p & Pythagoras the Shining One . The Siny Ones . One Principle of the Universe . White Dwarfs (Sirius A & B) . Proclus & Orphics . Xenu & Teegeeack . The Theory of Iterative Spiritual Redemption . The Mayas & The Lid of Palenque... "

Vesica Piscis II: Origins of the World
http://dyg3.tripod.com/

email address: dannyyanezgonzalez@hotmail.co.uk

**** Contributing clues from South American Pyramids, which may also have been built with accoustic properties...

"Was Maya Pyramid Designed to Chirp Like a Bird? "

Bijal P. Trivedi
National Geographic Today

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/12/1206_021206_TVMayanTemple.html

December 6, 2002

"Clap your hands in front of the 1,100-year-old Temple of Kukulcan, in the ancient Mayan city of Chichen Itza, and, to some researchers' ears, the pyramid answers in the voice of the sacred quetzal bird."

"Now I have heard echoes in my life, but this was really strange," says David Lubman, an acoustical engineer who runs his own firm in Westminster, California. The Maya, he believes, may have built their pyramids to create specific sound effects"

"Lubman and Mexican researchers led by Sergio Beristain, president of the Mexican Institute of Acoustics, have investigated acoustical phenomena in Chichen Itza and the great ancient metropolis, Teotihuacan."

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Euclid's Elements Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

In my research of the Egyptian, Greek, Babylonian, Judaic influences in the Americas... possibly even Templar influences, I cam across another set of amazing websites on geometric designs...somewhat related to pyramid building, and entirely related to mathematics...

Oliver Byrne's edition of Euclid

http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/DigitalMathArchive/Euclid/byrne.html

http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/DigitalMathArchive/Euclid/book6/byrne-211.html

from Wilkipedia…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid's_Elements
Euclid's Elements (Greek: Στοιχεῖα) is a mathematical and geometric treatise, consisting of 13 books, written by the Hellenistic mathematician Euclid in Egypt during the early 3rd century BC.

It comprises a collection of definitions, postulates (axioms), propositions (theorems) and proofs thereof. Euclid's books are in the fields of Euclidean geometry, as well as the ancient Greek version of number theory. The Elements is one of the oldest extant axiomatic deductive treatments of geometry, and has proven instrumental in the development of logic and modern science.

It is considered one of the most successful textbooks ever written: the Elements was one of the very first books to go to press, and is second only to the Bible in number of editions published (well over 1000).

For centuries, when the quadrivium was included in the curriculum of all university students, knowledge of at least part of Euclid's Elements was required of all students. Not until the 20th century did it cease to be considered something all educated people had read. It is still (though rarely) used as a basic introduction to geometry today.

Another interesting website, related to Euclid's Elements...
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Elements.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Fibonacci and Shell Spirals Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Once again, I am calling the readers attention to amazing mathematical/geometric design websites, this one compiled by Alex Sokolowski of World-Mysteries.com. My entire life seems to revolve around the visual presentation 'things'...stunning architecture, striking photography, brilliant designs, ancient iconic symbolism, even pleasing graffitti. If you share the same sense of visual appreciation of mathematical artwork, I think you will also enjoy this website article!

Fibonacci Numbers in Nature

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_17.htm

"The Fibonacci numbers are Nature's numbering system. They appear everywhere in Nature, from the leaf arrangement in plants, to the pattern of the florets of a flower, the bracts of a pinecone, or the scales of a pineapple. The Fibonacci numbers are therefore applicable to the growth of every living thing, including a single cell, a grain of wheat, a hive of bees, and even all of mankind." .....-Stan Grist

Equiangular Spiral
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Curves/Equiangular.html

Golden Ratio and Rule of Thirds, by Robert Berdan (from COMPOSITION & the ELEMENTS of VISUAL DESIGN)

http://photoinf.com/Golden_Mean/

Related Geometric Links compiled by Alex Sokolowski...
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_17.htm#Links

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:39 am    Post subject: Most Amazing, Sacred Geometry-type Website... Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I found another, most amazing geometric design website, by Ray Flowers…

http://www.sangraal.com/Abydos/index.htm

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix 1942-1970

San Graal School of Sacred Geometry
Grassy Branch Loop
Sevierville, Tennessee 37876

Alchemy, Magic, Incubation, Metatron, and Ancestors

"Esoteric, Geometric, and Symbolic writings, act as a "synapse" between the two polarities of intelligence. One finds that a clear logical exposition - be it architectural, scientific or mythological - will suddenly lift and expand into an immense interconnected thought field of an extra rational quality in which the multiple simultaneous meanings, while inwardly felt, may no longer be available to our rational mind.

Those unannounced fluctuations between our two primary nodes of knowing is at first disconcerting, but if one persists, sometimes without really grasping the idea, one can obtain glimpses of a new relationship between inner knowing and sensory based external analysis. ..... Robert Lawler ..Introduction to Symbol and the Symbolique... Schwaller de Lubicz

Website Compiled and constructed by Ray Flowers…

http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm

Discussion of Vesica Piscis

containing a very good discussion of the following...

Five Platonic Solids
Flower of Life
Metatron and Eve’s Grid
Sacred Geometry and the Box
Seed of Life
Goden mean Rectangle
Dodecahedron

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Ancient Greek Navigational Device Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to share three articles on the news of the ancient navigational device, with new interpretations on all that it was capabler of doing...

This to me adds enormous credibility to the theories that the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, etc. had world travel and intercontinental world trade long before the Christian era.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/30/news/computer.php

http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/750720/the_bc_pc__ancient_computer_tracked_planets/index.html?source=r_technology

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061129/sc_afp/sciencehistory_061129202046

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Ancient Sumerian Pottery, Statuary found in Bolivia Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Again from World-Mysteries.com, an amazing Bolivian discovery of pottery and statuary was made in 2002 and just now deciphered, showing Sumerian linguistic characters, artwork, design, and mythology, with a time date in the 2000 BC era.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_8.htm

Note: References are also made of the famous, undeciphered Phaistos Disk, and I would like to add that these same iconic images also appear on a smaller scale within the Valley of Mexico, among the Aztecs.

Phaistos Disk information.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_9.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Conference on Precession and Ancient Knowledge Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

I would like to inform all interested parties on a conference to be held in San Diego, called CPAK2007, Conference of Precession and Ancient Knowledge, October 6 and 7, 2007.

http://www.cpakonline.com/

The list of presenters sounds like the "who's who" of the study of ancient architectural structures, geometric figures, mathematics, and world knowledge.

As I have tried to outline in the study of Egyptian Tehoti, and the Aztec-are Teoti-huacan, and the Chinese Tao te Ching, there was an ancient cult focused only on KNOWLEDGE itself.

And as you have read in my taxi theories, I find it so intriguing that the "Sia", was anciently explained as the wisdom, the knowledge, the power, which evolved into the "Scien-tists". The "Hu" and the "Sa", the "voice" and the "power" gave us names like Tallahasee and Hu-sa-tonic.

Somehow, ironically, maybe we seem to have collectively lost that pursuit. Countering that trend seems to be the point of CPAK2007.

For your information, here is a list of the presenters:

Graham Hancock is the author of the major international bestsellers The Sign and the Seal, Fingerprints of the Gods, Keeper of Genesis, The Mars Mystery, Heaven’s Mirror and Underworld. His books have sold more than five million copies worldwide, have been translated into 27 languages, and include five No. 1 bestsellers in the UK.

Robert G. Bauval ...1989 Bauval published a study which proposed that the layout of the three Giza Pyramids and their relative position to the Nile was intended to mirror the layout of the three stars in Orion's belt and their relative position to the Milky Way. This thesis, now known as the 'Orion Correlation Theory', became the subject of his first book, The Orion Mystery, published in 1994.

Robert M. Schoch is well-known for his research on the Great Sphinx as well as his studies of the underwater structure off the coast of Yonaguni Island, Japan. Currently a tenured faculty member at Boston University’s College of General Studies, Schoch completed his graduate work at Yale University, earning a Ph.D. (1983) in geology and geophysics.

John Anthony West is a writer, scholar, Pythagorean, and rebel Egyptologist, having traveled to this region more than 100 times. He is the author of The Traveler's Key to Ancient Egypt, and consulting editor for the Traveler's Key series. His previous book, Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt is an exhaustive study of the revolutionary Egyptological work of the French mathematician and Orientalist, the late R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz....

Walter Cruttenden is a theoretical archaeo-astronomer involved in the study of ancient myth, folklore and megalithic structures for the purpose of determining the science and character of the higher ages. He in the author of the binary theory of precession. As Executive Director of the Binary Research Institute he researches the celestial mechanics of the precession of the equinox, as well as myth and folklore related to this phenomenon. ...

John Burke is an international businessman and an inventor with a university background in physics from SUNY Stony Brook. He founded Pro Seed Technologies, Inc., and as the CEO, has demonstrated in field trials and at organizations and universities throughout the world how artificial versions of electromagnetic energies enhance crop yields. His work has appeared on Fox Networks, Discovery Channel, History Channel and 20/20.

John Dering is a physicist, specializing in electromagnetic and acustical wave harmonics. We are constantly being affected by local and celestial magnetic fields. Dering will show how even subtle changes from another star (over long periods of time) can have dramatic effects on the earth and life on the planet in general. He will present the hypothesis: as the sun moves through space, it carries the Earth in and out of an EM field, producing “seasons” or ages of man with the eon of a great year.

Laird Scranton is an Albany, New York software designer and author of two books on Dogon and Egyptian cosmology and language. His research focuses on relationships between ancient myth and science, and his upcoming book, Sacred Symbols of the Dogon: The Key to Advanced Science in the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs....

Richard Leviton, ...author of 14 books in the fields of world myth, spirituality, landscape mysteries, healing, and natural medicine....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: great ideas Reply with quoteFind all posts by usarender

Hello Ed,

I was impressed by your suggestions of coded image.

This coded system can be done in several ways. I have been developing some of my own ideas on this matter as well. We are thinking along the same lines. So it would be good for us to exchange ideas on this.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Which one? Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Thanks for the response, but I am not sure which coded message you are referring to.

Two contributions I have kinda sorta made is the Moses comment, about how he and his followers survived in the desert for 40 years, and he answered ..."Manna from heaven".

Manu in Egyptian means..."country in the west". I guess it could also mean "bread from heaven" which has never made any sense, and why would you tell anyone where you and your followers escaped to?

The second coded item I can remember is the Statue of Atlas. Persons have asked the valid question...where are the maps of the ancient world. And I suggest the statue of Atlas was in fact a "secret, coded map". If you check the record books, Atlas has about two paragraphs to his life story, and is often called a contrivance of history or something. I think his statue, of him holding the celestial heavens on his left shoulder is in fact a map of the Western Hemisphere, with left arm of Baja, Right arm of Cuba/Florida, and his head is the Yucatan. Why put a map onto a paper which can be stolen and used by your enemies? Why not put the map into a fable and teach your astronomers ..."Sail West out of the Canaries, south of Gibralter, following the setting sun and the Cancer constellation overhead at night, with Thuban/Draco to your North, and if you hit North south land, then it is the right fore-arm of Atlas (Florida). If you hit islands and such, you are South, and keep heading West. The left shoulder of Atlas is arguably Mexico, the geographic center of the western Hemisphere.

But my latest decipher is the Monkey and spiral of Nazca, which I believe is now the Constellation Centaurus. What is interesting is that on the Nazca Plain, the aspect of the spiral and monkey is on the Southern edge, with a Northerly (spiral, the south celestial pole?) and more-South (Monkey body). Sort of pointing to the 6 o'clock. Centaurus I believe points to the 3 o'clock, where experts can possibly backtrack the star's alignments and figure out the timing when the Nazca monkey was placed there due to the 25,900 year precessional drift of the earth around the zodiac.

Your opinion of this graphic? How close?





Centaurus graphic from:
http://www.r-clarke.org.uk/constellations/centaurus.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: the key idea referred to Reply with quoteFind all posts by usarender

Ed Ziomek wrote:
I would like to share an idea I had after being inspired by the geometric design found among the Nazca discoveries.

I am presently seeking a patent attorney for a number system that in one single position, could represent a number sequence from 0 to beyond the numerical system that we understand it today.

The net of it all is that this single image, representing unthinkably large number sequences (quadrillion trillion... and beyond), could be represented in a single-place image. Having done this, every digital disk, every quantity of data, could theoretically be compressed into a single pictoral image, as small as a ??? fingernail, and printable/storable as an ink printout.

The market product for such an idea would be that digital photos, for example, could be accompanied by a single-image Icon, printed at the bottom, which 50 years from now could be "read" into a PC, and deciphered into an entire CD of video and audio information. Every digital photo could now have an audio WAV clip attached to it, for playback 100 or 200 years, or 5 seconds from now, provided that the deciphering software is known.

Entire libraries, I believe, could be condensed into a single page of images.

I believe it would work, and am soliciting ideas and participation from readers of this web site. PS... I offered this same idea to two other websites, with very little response.

Thoughts?


The quote is above.

This is the project I would like to discuss with you, as your ideas match mine, to an incredible degree of similarity. This is why I was impressed when I read what you posted, as I have been working on the same. I have many ideas on this and believe this idea is right on track. As I am an architect, inventor, I have developed means to implement this in many practical ways, beyond what you suggested. I would like to share ideas with you on this as it can be developed further by joining ideas.

Now, your spiral of Nazca holds much potential to be referring to the Constellation Centaurus, considering the astounding astronomical developments of those civilizations.

Now, on the statue of Atlas, perhaps an illustration would help.
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